Offline Doug Raynes.miklosrozsa

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    clayking

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    04/15/10

    Doug, I'm taking this off the Rozsa forum because it's become progressively more off-topic.  I honestly don't understand what you mean by early Technicolor not being "as vibrant" as later films.  I suggested that you might be seeing telecasts devolving from poor Eastman transfers.  Many of the early Technicolor films that have fallen into copyright public domain are from old 16mm TV or rental library source material, and the color is anything but vibrant.  Even standard DVD's don't always capture the full color range of Technicolor, although Blu-ray can be terrific.  I was disappointed in the Criterion Thief of Bagdad DVD becayse its colors were too cool compared to IB prints I've seen.  I think unless we're seeing an actual IB print it's difficult to judge whether we're seeing a true representation of what the film originally looked like.    

    I'm not trying to be argumentative, or be an "Avie know-it-all," but I'm actually curious and would ask you to cite a 3-strip Technicolor film from the 1930's, transferred from source material (either IB print or 3-strip negative) that you feel wasn't "vibrant."      

    -Rich Bush ("clayking")

    06/22/10

    Reply from Doug Raynes:

    Rich - I must apologise for not having replied to your message. I rarely look in my profile and didn't see your message until today. It's a pity Yuku doesn't have some system to inform when a private message has been sent. As for my comment about "vibrant" colour, well I'm certainly no expert and from your viewing of early IB prints you probab;ly have a much better idea of what early technicolor should look like than I do. It's simply an an impression I have from seeing TV viewings and DVDs, that '30s three strip was more muted than those of the '40s onward. I suppose I'm thinking of, for instance, "The Adventures of Robin Hood" which I have on Blu-ray. Whilst I love the look of the colour on the disc, it does not seem to me to be as vibrant as later films such as the 1949 "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon" - of which I once saw a suberb print at the National Film Theatre. 
    Regards - Doug 

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